hello roy, like i said in my first post...i am going to buy a audi v8. i dont have it yet. i was going to look one time...the engine started but 3 tires were flat so i could not drive with it(because he stands stil 2years). and yes all the lights of the gearbox were on. normally i have the car end this week(next weekend). but i just wanted to ask some questions....not more. so no...i have not checked the relay because i have the car not at home, sorry.