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I need some some pics of ABZ engine mounts from a V8 with the ABZ installed, or
A source of engine mounts ready made if such a thing exists
or
some feedback from someone that has replaced an ABH with an ABZ

and/or any other useful feedback if possible.

Cheers

Hallo.
Look into " GALERIE ".
Perttu's V8 - it works with an S8-machine.

Gruß Manfred M.

Siehe Anhang...

A picture of the block/subframe is important.
I know we had this discuss in the german part of this forum in the past.

Perttu doesn't own the V8 with S8 tiptronic transplant any more. I've met the new owner once in Vienna, a really lucky accident, actually. Anyways, what you've to know: The only known ABZ into V8 transplant is this one, whereas this is the S8 engine, but problems are the same.

If you can manage it to transplant the engine physically, you still have to deal with the problem that, and that's what the owner told me, the ABS sensors work in a different way, why you have to change the axes as well, which is hardly possible. Consequently, the pre-owner, maybe Perttu, has payd an incredible amount of money in order to get the auto-trans-ECU reprogrammed for the Audi V8 axes. That's required for the Tiptronic to work properly.

All this may be no problem if you want to out the ABZ in front of a manual gearbox, but this one has never been sold to UK, respectively has never been offered for RHD versions due to the reduced footspace. The only possible engine swap is, in my opinion, the Audi S8 340HP manual gearbox version.

But then, in turn, you can simply take the Audi S6+ engine, whch is practically identical. But, again, only on left hand driven Audi V8.

Best regards

Bastian

OK

What I need is pictures or information regarding the engines mounts on the ABZ when mounted in a V8 chassis.

There are a number of fundamental similarities between the ABH and ABZ engines. However, there are several major differences, including

ABZ is mounted to the subframe on A8 car, I believe
ABZ has a more compact oil cooler and cartridge filter


What I want to explore is-

Will the ABZ mount up to a standard V8 auto transmission? I have a spare transmission sitting on a pallet.
Will the ABZ physically fit in the engine bay, using either standard or modified/fabricated mounting brackets?

From information gleaned over about a half dozen sites, it appears that ABH cams will run in the ABZ heads, which would make it possible to use the existing electronics, with a different engine, albeit substantially the same.
Likewise, ABH heads have been used on AEC engine, apparently. (a project in the USA)
Which suggests that the inlet manifold may be useable.

My problem is one of sourcing viable early V8 engines. I have been offered several in the UK, but all have been such an unknown quantity- either they have not been running for a decade, sitting on a pallet, or they are actually in pieces, meaning a substantial rebuild is required, before even being able to run the engine.
Both of these options, I'm sure you will agree, are not practical.


So far, there have been several loose bits of information that the ABZ will fit in place of ABH or later engine on the S4 and S6plus. AEC? Axx?
There are a few pictures of V8 cars with A8 engines installed.


There have been no reports that the ABZ definitely won't fit with minimal work to install it.

By minimal work, I mean-
relatively easy fabrication or modification of the engine brackets.
mate sup to the V8 auto box

Unlike ABH or PT engines, ABZs are relatively plentiful here


If there is any clear information, it would be appreciated .

unless someone knows of a good ABH or AEC available?
Or even a good PT

Cash waiting

Hi Mark,

I may be able to get you in touch with the guy owning the V8/S8-conversion, but it may take some time and effort. You sure you wanna head for that?

Otherwise, don't you have any chance to get an AEC (S6). Only some minor changes are required to put it into a V8.

How many ABH and PT engines do you require? Shipping shouldn't be that expensive and PTs in good conditions are easy to get hold on.

Regards

Bastian

Hi, Bastian

If I can get an AEC/ABH for sensible money, shipped to the UK, then that would be very helpful.
I have a car with engine damage, sitting in storage at present. It's a long story, but basically, a UK Specialist blew the engine in the MOT. It may only be head gaskets, It won't be a quick job to strip the top end. and If i move the car from storage, I need an immediate plan to get it running.
The car is quite a high spec 93, in Lago, so I don't want to scrap it.

I was offered an ABH, but it has not been running for many years, and no one knows why it is on a pallet. So its not a practical option

If neither of those options are possible, then a PT would be useful in the short term.

Then, when I have some workshop space, I will be able to concentrate on a project to see if a kit can be made for a DIY ABZ transplant.