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#57678 02.06.2004 02:42
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hello, it's mi again

I have to change my R12 gas, i've heard that it's possible to switch for R413 without changing parts, is it true?

if not, i'll have to put R134a, what do I need to change?

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no one know? never refill the A/C ???

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Hi,
just did it to R134a. You need a new expansion valve for R134a (4B0 820 177, 15€) and a modification kit (2 valves, 25€). That's all.
There's a little risc that your A/C will be leaking because R134a is much thinner than R12. Maybe you have to refill it every 2 years or change all sealing rings. But that's still cheaper than the complete modification as Audi recommends it. Technically there's no problem according to my A/C specialist.
R413 would be the correct choice, but it's not available here because almost nobody needs it.

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Change over to the Propan / Butan mixture known as Envirosafe ( and other mixtures of the same ) . I am using it in my 87 GTI (sold), our 81 XJ6, our sons SVX and in my 93 V8. You shold change over to R124 fittings and add a sticker to the car. One of the advantages is, that you don't even have to evacuate the system. ( I do evacuate mainly to check for leaks.) The system pressure is lower and the mixture cools more than R12.
FYI , if I remember right Albert Einstein used this mixture as well.


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where do you find the modification kit? any part number from audi?

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The modification kit are 2 valves, one at the dryer and one at the T-connection at the right and a label. There's no need to buy it because every A/C maintenance station has it. These are no specific Audi parts. The only part you should get is the correct expansion valve.


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